Originally Posted by
Dave Fitzgerald
Originally Posted by
DashTrash
I made a huge mistake last April. The day before a reserve day, the crew desk called and I answered. They gave me a 8am show the next day (first day of a reserve stretch). I was obligated because they made contact with me. If I had let the call go to voicemail, and called after 18:00, they could not have given me the trip. They can't start you before 10:00 on the first day of reserve following a day off.
Of course you can volunteer for a start prior, but they can't make you. 3. I don't believe since you answered, you are on the hook. That is a common misconception. Just because you answer doesn't mean they can violate the contract.
I think if you answer the phone prior to 1800 you are on the hook. At least, that seems to be the direction from the union. This MEC explanation is about the FAR issue, but it says if two-way contact is made they can make an assignment before 1000, so long as it is both FAR and UPA compliant. I think voluntary or not. Do not the answer phone when not required to.
https://www.alpa.org/~/media/UAL/Fil...2014-09-04.pdf
The “legal to report” column displays the earliest time you are legal to either “report” or “depart” for your next assignment based on UPA and FAR 117 post trip off duty requirements.
There will be a “D” or an “R” before each time and date indicating which time is driving your legality. The “D” indicates the time is legal to Depart and the “R” indicates the time is legal to Report.
Note 1-Last Day Off Prior to Reserve Days: The legal to report time shown for the first day of RSV is based on the UPA 20-K-7 rules and may not consider FAR 117.
A report time earlier than 1000 can only be used if the pilot answered the phone on their day off (which is never required) and is given an assignment. In other words, unless the pilot is contacted by phone (two-way communication, not simply a message) on his last day off, his legal to report time for the first day on RSV will be 1000 as driven by FAR 117.
Note 2-Short Call: A short call window can begin before the published legal to report time (“R” or “D”), however, the pilot will not be required to report/depart on a trip before the published time.
Example 1
00G1234 B SMITH D 06:00/30
In the example above,
the pilot is UPA legal to depart at 0600 on the 30th. This pilot is on his first day of reserve availability after RDOs but was released at 1500 on his last day of reserve before his RDOs. The FIFO list shows the UPA legal to report time, but crew schedulers and pilots must also comply with the FAR legality.
Unless the company successfully makes contact with the pilot on his day off, or unless he aggressively picks up a trip, he is not FAR legal to report until 1000. There is obviously a chance of scheduler confusion on this issue and pilots must be sure they are not inadvertently assigned a report prior to 1000.
The UPA reference is 20-K-7-a and 20-K-7-a (1):
20-K-7-a On the day following his day(s) off, a Reserve shall not be required to depart from his Base prior to 0700 except that such time shall instead be: 20-K-7-a-(1) 0600, if the Pilot was released from being available for assignment at or before 1500 on the day preceding his scheduled day(s) off.