And get me vacation override back too. When you stop smoking whatever you are smoking, let me know.....

Look, we can negotiate any thing but it all has a cost. In the end, it may not cause us to loose anything.......other than something else, say vacation or training pay per day.

It all goes to the bottom line of the cost of the CBA. Not right just is.

Surveys will be forthcoming and I recommend that all participate.

That said, the union will and really must follow the guidance of the whole pilot group. That is the fact of the matter.

Sacrifices will be made in other areas to capture gains in QWL if that is the will of the total pilot group.

Just realize, how we cost items differs greatly from how the company values them. We meet somewhere in the middle ground.

As a much wiser pilot once said, never give up work rules as they'll cost twice as much to get back (Rick D.).

I won't rehash LUAL BK history, other than so much was given to save an A plan that was dead day one of BK. They just had target fixation, as did many of the pilot group. PW sold you a turd and a majority of the pilots voted for it.

We are where we are now because of those monumental mistakes by the "leadership " and the pilots that said yes.

If all is so bad, I recommend a leave of absence. Or, do what I did and take a voluntary furlough. It worked great for me. But, I don't hang my hat on hoping this company succeeds.

I came back because it worked for Me and mine.

When you get a chance, sit down and compare BK 1 and 2 contracts to what we now have........

Is it perfect, no. Is it LCO rules, far from it. Did it "cost" to get to where we are today, yes.

Grow up boys and girls. You might be willing to burn down the house over RSV rules. Unfortunately your contemporaries may not be. Majority rules.

Lee