Originally Posted by
Richard
Not quite certain that Cargo 360 pilots were completely screwed in the deal.
Consider:
1. 10K signing bonus (or 4 months (probably more) termination bonus pay)
2. Higher 2nd year pay scale than Southern Pilots (eg: $110 Capt/67.5 FO)
3. 3 to 1 on stock purchase
4. Relief from the Cargo 360 2-year training bond and no SAH carryover bond
5. 401K that didn't previously exsist at C360
6. Same basic medical plan
7. 1/2 DH on commercial travel to and from work (none exsistent at C360)
8. 3.5 hour daily rig for days on the road (no rig exsists at C360 until after 20 days)
9. An actual pilot working contract (which obviously needs work)
Frankly the only screwing will be in DOH integration. That has less to do with Oak Hill and everything to do with the SAGC negotiations. If they go by strict DOH, obviously none of the senior C360 Captains will be senior enough to set foot in a 747-400.
And, therefore, none will come over to SA. I suspect the "delay" that has occured in sending out offers of employment centers around the sticky issue of pilot seniority integration.
Finally... does QOL suck at SA? You bet! Could that change for the better? Well it will have to if they want to retain their own people, let alone attract C360 pilots.
Remains to be seen I guess. Its called "leadership". Lets see if they have any over there at SA.
Just have to reply to the above statement. My apologies to anyone this might offend.
10K signing bonus for Captains. FO/FE 5K - not saying thats a bad deal
Higher second year pay then SAI Pilots but then no pay raise for 2 years after being on at SAI - Now we were going to start profit sharing 2008.
3 to 1 stock purchase...Now not everyone went an purchased a boat load of stock As far as I know, since I started at C360 i only had one small window last march to purchase the stock. I didn't. Only a handful of guys benefited from the stock purchase.
The C360 training bond gets carried over to SAI if we go there - so how is this a benefit?
401K... OK, I'll give you that one.
Same medical...Why even bring it up?
1/2 Commercial travel....OK, but not a great selling point.
3.5 Daily rig after 20 days... I never was out more than 18 days a month, always logged around 85-95 hours.
Working contract at SAI blows - (Sorry for being rude)
The big reason C360 guys think it sucks is because:
1. We are no longer building our own airline. We are now working for SAI with SAI rules that we must follow. Most C360 Pilots are at C360 because they have a chance to shape the company. Now the rug has been pulled from underneath us.
2. As a general rule, SAI has never been a longterm place to work for most pilots. C360 actually was viewed by most as a long term gig.
3. SAI has a rep for not being very reliable. C360 was viewed as very reliable and great on time performance. This gave us pride.
4. Under the merging of seniority, C360's #1 Pilot falls to #37 on SAI's seniority list. The Chief FE at C360 will be just a line puke at #55 on SAI's seniority list.
5. No one in their right mind wants to fly down to S. America.
6. I was working 8 on, 6 off. At SAI I'll be bottom feeding working 20 or more on and spending a lot more idle time in hotels.
Nothing against SAI crews. I'm sure you guys are a party. Just totally feel screwed by this and wanted to explain why.