Originally Posted by pilotpayne

I get what you are saying but you can be pro company and pro union.
Sometimes it seems like it has to be a choice on here. Some committees like hims or pro stands really need the company to be effective. I'm just saying it's not black and white. I want the company to do great and I think some stuff they do is good but I think some stuff is bad, so much so that I voted yes. I am also pro union but I know ALPA has its flaws and also needs to be watched. To me it seems like in life we try to put everyone in a perfect little box and that just does not work.

I will say HB argument was really about how the union keeps getting better not the company. I wouldn't say the company keeps getting better. We are in negotiations so it's a land grab change as much as you can and make us negotiate for what we just had. Do I like it no but it was expected. Nothing is really going to change till we get a CBA sadly.