Originally Posted by uptpilot

Glad you said this.

This is a fundamental idea that pilots need to get used to. For far too long, pilots have been beaten down by cleaning honeypots on small planes or flying long hours at low pay in the regionals. Most pilots' basis for comparison is a low standard. Therefore, when they dangle a rotten carrot in front of us, we trip over our own drool. This is wrong. We need to compare ourselves to others in equivalent professions such as scientists, engineers, medical practitioners, nuclear plant operators, and so on. I don't mind the online check-in provided we can audit the software for abusive capabilities (persistent monitoring).

The race to the bottom begins when we simply compare ourselves to competitors like Delta. I don't want to be Delta. I want a workplace that is BETTER than everyone else. We cannot do this by following the worst practices of competitors then saying that we're better because we're only marginally better.

We need to expect more of our employer. How about better reserve rules. How about more help with commuting. Doesn't one of the regionals now get you hotel rooms if you have to come in the day prior?

We need to convince our management to stop licking the boots of shareholders and banksters. We don't work for banksters or people who do no real work (stock traders). This whole of idea of the company and its employees existing to serve the shareholder under some kind of fiduciary duty is plain myth. The lawful requirement is not there. It's simply an attitude. The CEO has a legal duty to help the company and by helping employees by pay and good rules, it helps the company. This needs to be our narrative.

Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot

All true, but the apologists for B6 cant help but punch holes in any complaint presented on the forum. Too many "yea but" guys here.
Too many guys afraid to rock the boat.
For all of them- Yes I know its not the worst place to work and its better than a regional- Okay? Does that statement now allow us to continue with the facts?