Originally Posted by Otterbox

The only comparison was that if those folk working at those types of gigs can find the time off and $ to pursue further their apps to the (other) majors anyone form JetBlue can as well. If JetBlue pilots aren't actively trying to get on with a career airline, they've got no one to blame but themselves.

Unfortunately JetBlue management sees its peers as Frontier, Spirit and Virgin America. It's pilots see their peers as SWA, United, AA and Delta. Management isn't going to willingly give a CBA on par with any of the groups you aspire to be like anytime soon without significant pressure. With the level of pressure they're receiving now (which really isn't all that much) you'll probably see an offer of 10-20% increase in pay in benefits when the first CBA comes around for approval (they were already trying to pacify you with an 8% raise and a reduction in profit sharing) in 18-24 months when they really start getting concerned with pilot manning.

Hopefully the pilot group votes the first contract down, then it'll be another 12-18 months until they get the second CBA produced which historically has something like a 90% pass rate regardless of what's in it.

JetBlue pilots are driven to be working under a top tier CBA, they need to apply to companies that offer them already instead of hoping and dreaming that one is going to fall into their lap because they have a union now. It's going to be a long time before they see one otherwise.