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Old 06-30-2017 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by YVslave
Not what I am saying.

example.

Your airlines way, I think they way it works. On your last day, or last of flying on schedule with reserve on following day.

show time, 9:00 am at outstation, fly to base, block in, no flying on your schedule, approximately 11 hour of FDP remaining. You pick up your phone, hello scheduling, this is WT, calling to be released. No flying here, you are released. They may also say, have a nice weekend WT, or your reserve starts tomorrow at XX:XX WT.

The mesa new ta way, which is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This could be with days remaining on reserve or your last day.

show time, 9:00 am at outstation, fly to base, block in, no flying on your schedule, approximately 11 hour of FDP remaining. You pick up your phone, hello scheduling, this is joe pilot, calling to be released. mesa scheduling, joe we are keeping you on FDP for 9 more hours, we are short crews. joe pilot, is there any flying to be done now? no mr joe pilot, something might come up. With no intent to fly mesa is now keeping joe on reserve ( tell me there is another name MagNeg ) with no flying to be had. Joe gets home, lives near the airport, does gardening and a trip to home depot. Three and half hours go by, ring ring, hello joe, its scheduling, just got a sick call from a pilot, we need you to get to the airport to do a short turn, you have a show time in two hours.?????WTF

Someone please reference how this is legal per FAR 117. There must be some examples and new interpretations by now. I have looked, but have found nothing. How this is in the TA is unbelievable to say the least. They are in-fact changing the FDP formula. It is RAP + FDP, this example does not show this, but mesa is IMO wanting to do this: FDP + RAP + FDP. MagNeg, anyone, please comment.
Yep, the FAA has answered various iterations of this question, all saying that a carrier can keep you on duty if they have some intent, no matter how vague, of having you fly some more up to Table B maximums, plus extension with PIC concurrence.

Here's one letter:
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/agc/pol_adjudication/agc200/interpretations/data/interps/2014/Wykoff%20&%20Mullen-ALPA%20-%20(2014)%20Legal%20Interpretation.pdf
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