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Old 06-30-2017 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by YVslave
show time, 9:00 am at outstation, fly to base, block in, no flying on your schedule, approximately 11 hour of FDP remaining. You pick up your phone, hello scheduling, this is joe pilot, calling to be released. mesa scheduling, joe we are keeping you on FDP for 9 more hours, we are short crews. joe pilot, is there any flying to be done now? no mr joe pilot, something might come up. With no intent to fly mesa is now keeping joe on reserve ( tell me there is another name MagNeg ) with no flying to be had. Joe gets home, lives near the airport, does gardening and a trip to home depot. Three and half hours go by, ring ring, hello joe, its scheduling, just got a sick call from a pilot, we need you to get to the airport to do a short turn, you have a show time in two hours.?????WTF

Someone please reference how this is legal per FAR 117. There must be some examples and new interpretations by now. I have looked, but have found nothing. How this is in the TA is unbelievable to say the least. They are in-fact changing the FDP formula. It is RAP + FDP, this example does not show this, but mesa is IMO wanting to do this: FDP + RAP + FDP. MagNeg, anyone, please comment.
With using your example; the answer received by other bloggers is the legal rules of 117 and current book since this term is currently undefined in our current contract. However since FDP is defined in this TA your example would be as follows:

"show time, 9:00 am at outstation, fly to base, block in, no flying on your schedule, approximately 11 hour of FDP remaining for 117 rules, with TA you would finish at 2 hours after block in or 1/2 remaining FDP whichever is less. You pick up your phone, hello scheduling, this is joe pilot, calling to be released. mesa scheduling, joe we are keeping you on FDP for 2 hours, we are short crews. joe pilot, is there any flying to be done now? no mr joe pilot, something might come up. with no flying to be had. Joe gets home, lives near the airport, does gardening and a trip to home depot. Three and half hours go by, ring ring, hello joe, its scheduling, just got a sick call from a pilot, we need you to get to the airport to do a short turn, you have a show time in two hours. I'm sorry but my FDP ended 2 hours after my last flight and am not able to accept this assignment. "
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