Originally Posted by sailingfun

We did not give up our nook in Tokyo, it is dead and buried by better aircraft and a very crafty move by the Japanese to open up Haneda to international flights. China has not worked out because our potential partner wants all the Pacific flying with us doing zero.
That was the same thing KAL wanted a few years back that led to a pullback in that relationship. Fortunently for us they bought a shipping company that is dragging them down and they came back to the table hat in hand.