I faintly remember those days, there was an effort around/after the Germans took you over in 03. Times are different now, those guys will remember the screw job they got.

If one group organized in CVG the rest would fall like dominos.

I say that yet ATI is has the lowest labor rate on the ramp by no small margin. I know even their maintenance and ground people are 20-30% lower than anyone on the ramp. Their pilots are 30-50% lower as well. I figured there would be more of a push there. I know their management reads this board and probably post here too. Gaining business that way has never worked in the past.