Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

There's nothing to see. They offered raises to keep us in the bottom tier. That's enough details for me. I don't want to see anything that's not ratifiable and ratifiable is industry standard. We've asked for that and that's what's being negotiated. Management is proposing ultra low cost pilot. If that's what you want I think Allegiant and Frontier are hiring.

Allegiant got raises and retirement to place them right back at the bottom of this round of bargaining which is probably the best negotiating climate in most all of our careers. You either get it now or get it never. They cemented themselves at the bottom. That's not going to change in the next cycle. They start doing multi-day trips and that place is going to empty out.

Frontier is in a bankruptcy contract and they will have to go on strike to get a dime from Franke.

We are not these airlines and if this is going to be a career destination we need to negotiate a career contract and that's what the negotiating comittee is asking for. If we want a stepping stone contract we need to go work at a stepping stone. Most of us want to make this a career.

Btw we could have an industry leading contract and still crush the legacies in profit margins.