Perfect sounds like we're on the same page now. After being in the regional airline world for 10 years and after going through furloughs, bankruptcies, consessionary contracts, displacements, mergers and SLI arbitration, I totally get it. I'm not disillusioned. I'm just trying to start fresh and make my own judgments as I see things happen. I do appreciate the brutally honest commentary so far but it would be so nice to have a threat just for info regarding new hires and helpful information for those who are coming on board (training stuff). Don't think I discount the feelings of those current pilots getting the shaft and the reality of what's happening rifht now with Alaska.