I'm glad you had a positive experience on the panel. To me, it was the most demeaning, frustrating and uncomfortable time in a 21-year flying career. I would have done anything - well, virtually anything - to get off it. CDG on F/O pay? You bet. I'd have made it work.

My lowest point was when the captain (a well-known guy) walked into the cockpit when I'd been here two months and said, "So... how many d!cks did your wife have to suck to get you this job?" I was so stunned I just said, "What?" So he slowed down and said, "How - many - d!cks - did - your - wife - have - to - suck - (etc....)"

Now, I KNOW that all you guys here at APC would never treat a newbie flight engineer that way. But the psychos are out there, and I seemed to get all of them my probationary year. I'd have flown a Caravan out of CDG to get out of that seat.

Or maybe it was just the "greed or the thrill...."