Did you ever think we might get iced not because of our negotiators but because the company isn't coming up in any meaningful way? I sure don't want our negotiators coming down that's for sure. I'm not going to boot negotiators for doing exactly what we've asked them to do. I want a deal but not one just to get one. It has to be industry standard. This contract is 7 years old and I expect the next one will be too and I'm living with crap for that long just to get it done now. We've asked for an affordable industry standard deal and they want a low tier deal. And who says we're getting iced we just got this mediator.

Hawaiian got iced and then a deal came. You get iced and turn up the media campaign to the max and watch the attrition reach numbers never seen before