Originally Posted by
newarkblows
if i was at chq i would not be too excited or rubbing my pants over flying 70 seaters for CO. not only is there scope, starting a base in newark , but you also STILL have to win the bid for the flying. Your airline has already proved by its rocky start up that CO doesnt care about level of service. They want the bottom line for meat in the seat. They want to pit regionals against each other for flying. When you pit CHQ with a "new" contract (where they dont get paid 50 seat wages to fly 70) against a mesa or other REALLY low end undercutter you are going to lose. There will be a lot of competition for that flying... i am at xjt and i know we wont get the 70 seat flying even if we started that airframe and bid low because CO doesnt want one or two main groups. They want many divided, ****ed off groups, working for peanuts, that are too worried about their job to see the big picture. We fly the airplanes but as a whole we are pawns of upper management.
toilet your views on "well i will get mine attitude" is kind of disgusting. Its like running head first into a tree that you cant see... keep dreaming about a nice contract, CO giving up scope (tell me again how you dont want it! it makes me laugh), more 70 seaters.... and then when you do go to CO you might be furloughed because of some lowball bidder like MESA and their "lawyers" dangle just the right amount of propoganda to ease scope.
Bottomline: CHQ, XJT, or any company with a halfway decent contract will not win a bid for new flying with CO. It is going to be another carrier with lower overhead and bad work rules.... Colgan could be it, could be Mesa. sounds like your mythical stock boy might have to sell those airplanes to chinese schookids who don't know any better
keep in mind that CHQ was not the lowest bidder on this last RFP. So its not just about the cheapest "meat in the seat". Yes we did have a very rocky start up with continental but I think our performance has shown to improve to a much higher level. I am agreement with everyone here that CAL mainline giving up scope would be a horrible thing. I heard the rumors of 170s for CAL in the crew room the other day and I said "if CAL pilots give up scope I am leaving the industry"
If it were up to me, mainline would get over their "little pilot syndrome" and take back over any aircraft with turbojets on it period. regardless of how many seats you have in the back. Look at foreign carriers, it seems to work for them.
Face it we do so much b****** back and forth at one another about regional x vs regional y and scope this and scope that, your a scab, gojet sucks. Look at whos fault it is, its the mainline dinosaurs back in the 80s that couldnt get over their own little man syndrome and keep all aircraft on property with one list.