I realize when I upgrade, I won't hold captain in SLC. That's why I will upgrade and commute to a base where I can hold it. Either that, or stay in SLC, sit around, complain like you do, and go nowhere, while fuming and stewing over things I can't control. The ones who get hired and move on aren't the ones constantly whining about how unfair things are while accusing those with go-getter attitudes of "drinking kool-aid". So sick of all the pansy talking, thumb-sucking whiners here that make every effort to drag everyone else down with their bullcrap. Misery loves company and those willing to sit around and indulge in that garbage are the ones dividing this company. It's all what you make it. No, it's not perfect. Not even close. No, not everybody thinks it's great. However, I myself find that it provides what I'm looking for at this stage of my 15 years of flying so far. I applied for this job, got hired, make more here for less "work" than anywhere else I've flown, and am getting the precious turbine time. If I find myself as pi**Ed off and disgruntled as you are, I'll go back to flying in another area of aviation.