Can I even go to job fairs, I'm not a SkyWest FO...
Sorry, couldn't resist...just a joke guys...
Trust me, I've done my share of talking to people seeking info on coming to frontier. I've even used a silver bullet. I make sure I give them the whole skinny, the good the bad and the ugly. The one thing I can't convey though, is the utter disdain the upper management and decision makers have for the pilot group. When you finally realize that, it's an eye opener. Bad pay, poor hotels, ho-hum lines, training contract, pay for your own hotel in training, unfathomably bad health insurance, easily manipulated grievance policies, archaic retirement, no travel language even though it's clearly stated to be reopened in the contract if they get a base other than Denver, the fact that it's everybody's first day at all the stations. All of these things can be fixed with time, contract language and other means. But you cannot change the arrogant condescension the higher ups have for the line employees here. No amount of vacation sliding can atone for that.

And...
For goodness sake, Turbo, I said added to the list.... yes we've hired 300+ but have only added 150 to the seniority list.
1150-1000=150. Half the list here isn't going anywhere, we need to add a lot more for people here to get 2 yr upgrades continuing into the future. My point was to be skeptical of numbers for growth and upgrades coming from this company. I find them to be dubious at this point and time. I think you even found the forecast numbers for the rest of the year wanting. What they say and what they do are two different things. This is getting a little contrived. I'll see you guys at the next PUB event, picket or Whatever our future holds.
Cheers-