And Captains are a year plus. Stagnation has already set in yet I'm still asked how long upgrades are here. Even with the amount of guys leaving this place has no future without an industry contract and a large order. And our management isn't playing the long game. Short term sale or a golden parachute, who knows. Anyone under 50 should be looking to get out of Dodge. Stock is still falling. Maybe someone respectable will buy us and put this yellow out of its misery.