Old 09-01-2017 | 09:00 PM
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John Carr
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Tony, will all due respect, you're a SMART GUY. And the work you did on the SKW union drives is commendable. I don't have a "dog in the fight", just what my friends there give me;

Originally Posted by TonyC
Ask me again when the guy you're flying with, hired 5 years after you, gets paid more and bids a better vacation than you.
Won't happen, and won't happen.

Originally Posted by TonyC
If The Company has money to spend on pay raises, why shouldn't ALL pilots share in the increase?
Agreed, on multiple facets. But the entire regional sector is going through some form of this now. but again, AGREE. Just raise the book rates for ALL SEATS instead of all this bonus crap. But as we ALL KNOW, that requires and ENTIRE negotiation process outside of normal contract talks. And the situation at the regionals is way more fluid/dynamic than the legacies.

When it comes time during the next round of negotiations to choose between a pay raise and improving another benefit, don't be surprised when the 10-year benefactor is less interested in the pay raise than you are, because he already got his. You'll have different goals, and fuel for the internal pilot feud, instead of banding together towards common goals.
Not likely, that guy will more than likely be capped out on the FO pay scale, with NO UPGRADE IN SIGHT and wanting MORE MONEY. At least, not at XJT anyway.

You apparently don't understand everything that seniority is supposed to give you.
Again, agree.

But a lot of this debate centers around whatever perspective/viewpoint one has;

"Portability" of SOME time one put into this career? A semblance of national seniority? Wouldn't go that far.

But make no mistake, a new hire/FNG under this program won't be taking vacation slots from someone senior, and won't be out earning a CA, etc.

SGU maybe celebrating. But there's A LOT going on behind the scenes here. Mainly, the CPA with UAL and XJT that is controlled by SGU is NOW getting paid enough from UAL to allocate money for the raises, bonuses, profit share, "soft landings" and whatever else.

But we can take that back around, why not give that money to ALL PILOTS and all seats? Sure, sounds great. Till that "sourcing cost" is no longer in line with UCH's UAX people. In which case they just take more planes and give them to TSA, Commutair, whomever......
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