Precisely. If you intercept the slope at the initial fix and ride it down, you'll be at 1700 ish when you cross Dandy. More violations are made on this approach than any other. Also take a look at the new Rudy 5 or 6 departure from TEB. I cant remember what it's called. They just changed it a few weeks back. Also, check out the HPN6 out of White Plains. Its a decent one. The RNAV/ILS for BTV with regards to step down fixes are good too. We fly these quite often and the company wants you to be on point. Review descend via stuff and a few other SID and STAR procedures. PAALA.1 for PDK. ILS 21L PDK.