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Old 09-14-2017 | 07:23 PM
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Keep in mind when comparing rates at the legacies:
  • Spirit work rules are probably better overall, especially better than AA
  • Spirit doesn't contract out 50% of their flying to regionals with 76 and under aircraft, I would gladly make slightly less today to have had that flying be in house instead of spending close to a decade at a regional
  • Comparing future rates or rates "being negotiated" is crazy and nuts, same as basing a home's value off sales that will be occurring in the future

Waiting may pay off as jetBlue should be upping theirs slightly but how much will you obtain by waiting? It's quite possible your NC is overstepping and still looking at rates. If you guys want better work rules it will cost on the rate side of the equation.

If you continue to be "unreasonable" in the eyes of the NMB you will be left in a hold for years, this is exactly what the company wants, the longer you hold out for best instead of accepting good or better now the more money they make and the closer we get to an economic downturn where things might not be so easy to negotiate. This was literally AA's story back in 2000-2001 time frame. The wanted UAL +%, it never happened and when the furloughs started that time had come and gone.

You definitely deserve WAY more than you are making now and it kinda pains me to see all the guys I've known go to Spirit waiting on this raise, I really did think it would happen for you by this time.
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