Originally Posted by
pete2800
Nah, I don't work at Spirit, but there aren't that many comparisons. Frontier's is a bankruptcy driven, Virgin won't exist anymore, Alaska is pending arbitration, and Jetblue has been in negotiations for a while now.
When you're selling a house, you compare to current values, not values that homes on that street sold at 5 years ago. The current, valid, negotiated union contracts are Delta, American, United, Southwest, Hawaiian, and Allegiant. That's it. Run those numbers if you want averages.
Ummmm okay...so IF during a downturn and 1/3 of the airlines just took concessionary contracts, I'm sure you'll be the first one to argue that the good contracts are irrelevant and we should strive for concessions also because those are the newest contracts and we should get the average of those. Hmmmm
Your housing example is just crazy!
Companies should pay fair market rate based on their segment of the industry. Market rate is whatever your competitors in your segment of the industry CURRENTLY pays.
To argue that, well... they're negotiating right now and will have a better contract soon thus we should compare ourselves to their next contract has as merit as the company saying, "well, 2 contracts from now Alaska/virgin will have a contract during a downturn so we'll use that as a baseline."
Face it, your union and the outspoken clowns has backed your position into a corner. For the sake of saving face at this point, I don't see y'all willing to come out and accept anything but legacy rates. And I believe the NMB will see the company's proposal as entirely reasonable and will stop any strike before it starts. Y'all are basically stuck in this hellhole of a stalemate for years to come.
Thank goodness there's full retro!!! Good luck!