Originally Posted by
BuckeyeFO
-just got a PM from someone. Is it true that FOs don't get over 40k pay anymore? That was part of the CBA?
That's correct.
FO scale tops out at year 11?
It actually will go out to year 14 now (phased in over the life of the contract), which did help me at the time, as an almost topped-out FO. It used to stop at year 10, because of course we'd never have FOs that long...
I have a feeling the exact same problem is going to come up again, as there's no way an 11-year FO now is going to be upgrading in three years.
As a sidenote, a lot of people jump and say "but the captain's side gets an override," but no, it doesn't, and it never did. On the old contract, the FOs got about a 7% pay boost for over-40k
in every year of longevity. A 5-year Gulfstream FO made more money than a 5-year Excel FO.
The captains, then and now, simply have a payscale that goes out three more years. It's not the same deal that the FOs had. For the first 14 years, under-40k and over 40k pay exactly the same for captains. A 12-year Gulfstream captain makes the same base salary as a 12-year Excel captain.
Honestly, it never made any sense to me at all why the FOs got a percentage override in the larger planes, but the captains didn't.