Originally Posted by
terminal
First off : those jobs were ours to begin with.
I’m not backpedaling. I’ve been consistent with my thoughts on scope.
Restricting it means more flight hours, more consistent branding/standardization, better upgrade times and faster seniority rise...and those jobs were ours to begin with!
I’m stating that the current vacation rules are not good for the pilots. And restricting what I can pickup so a hypothetical person can get hired is ridiculous...Our vacation rules are terrible. And PBS doesn’t help. Compare it to SWA who get paid for trip drops and can turn 7 days of vacation into 15 paid days off because of paid trip drops...I wouldn’t work if that was the case...most L-UAL guys probably wouldn’t either...that would actually help create jobs too!
And I’ve also proven that lockdown scope AND good vacation is possible using SWA as an example.
I cannot fathom how this pilot group could be so against vacation reform.
How is that backpedaling?
Well, that sure was a fine rant......
I agree, our vacation rules super suck. Even my last 2 places had vacation touch/"override". Heck, even after the transition to PBS a week of vacation usually only had me work about 8 days a month.
But as much as it sucks, our jobs are protected. Even the current scope, they're NOT. Or at least, the junior guy's isn't. Your initial post completely reeked of a selfish mentally. Sorry to break it to you....
Originally Posted by
LeeFXDWG
Back in the days of prebuilt lines, trips that touched vacation were dropped with pay. So pilots would bid for lines that would maximize the vacation/trip drop footprint.
PBS obviously makes the concept obsolete.
Lee
Right. PBS is FIRST OFF, a staffing solution. It's primary purpose ISNT an overall pilot QOL enhancer. That's farther down the list.
But what's usually lost in a line bid vs. PBS discussion is, it's NOT so much about which is better or worse, it's the workrules that govern EITHER system.
As mentioned, my crappy last job I could get 20-22 days off from a single week of vacation. That was with line bid or PBS. And some of buddies as other shops can get that much with their PBS as well. Simply because the rules that govern the system/award/sort/solution.
Too bad a pilot with vacation can't pref bid, THEN drop the vacation week over it.