Originally Posted by
Dolphinflyer
Spare us the sermon, seriously. The only reason I am engaging you on this subject is to point out to the new guys how wrong you are with your blanket slander.
No group is perfect, we can find examples from #1 through #15000 like you describe. You complain about "senior" Captains who will vote to throw Scope and destroyed our work rules? Welcome to the party. I also flew with Captains like that as FO and always wondered where they came from until I upgraded halfway through the initial AAL Section 6/Initial CHP11 process. Guess what I found? The FO's I flew with were as bad or even worse at holding the line, and many of the "tough talkers" would trash our contract as soon as they figured out some deal was better for them or they could catch a commuter flight 1 hour earlier.
Don't like sub-mesa work rules? Neither do I. I didn't vote for it, it was something we ate because of Chapter 11, the same crap that until very recently had LAW/LUS narrow body Captains working for $125/hour. The threatened AMR forced 1113 rate was mid $150's.
The next Section 6 is coming up fast. We will go nowhere with your attitude and BS crying. Do us a favor and apply for a FO Chief Pilot position. At my southern base, two of the biggest screaming crap throwing alleged unionists applied for Chief Pilot positions.
It's time to get together and clean up the mess.
Whatever, bro.
I'm just saying they would absolutely cave on scope for 3 cents per hour.
There are some good ones, but the vast majority I fly with simply do not care. Many really view it as a "I had a rough career, so it's all about me now."
I flew for a regional, and people simply weren't like this. Sure, there were some self centered ass hats, but they were the exception. This group has been through hell, and I get it. That's still no reason to impose hell on everyone else.
I think things will improve. Maybe enough will retire that a difference will be felt, but I definitely sense a bad vibe from most of the ones within a couple years of 65. It's kind of a "don't worry, you'll be senior someday and then you can screw everyone else" sort of thing. It's remarkably common