Forgive me for having irresponsible comments on APC, I'm not trying to offend anyone or throw bombs out there. There was draft being flown during negotiations, as well as DPs, VLT, etc. Guys have a right to do that, though I don't agree with it. Same with flying DPs now. What I was trying to point out, apparently unsuccessfully, was that I find it ironic that the union focuses so much on DPs when there are other things that I think are also worthy of so much attention. Sometimes I think "they" keep the focus on DPs so much b/c it's the one thing we can all rally around. Age 60? The LOA? I think the MEC would rather us not pay so much attention to those things b/c so many guys were in complete disagreement with them on those issues. Hence, let's keep the membership fired up about DPs. Just my two cents.