Originally Posted by
Milksheikh
So what exactly is this whole "managers hired as pilots/captains" situation? Is there a separate application from a normal ups line pilot position? Do they go through the training like line pilots then afterwards are off to the office and only occasionally pick up a trip here and there to be current? Are they hired on as sim instructors/check airman then go to the line? I take it they are not represented by the union or have to pay dues.. is that the beef? Are they on the seniority list? Also, how is the pay different? just never heard of something like this..
"Is that the beef?" Wow... yeah, without the doubt the most contentious issue here.
CC answered most of your questions.
Few more:
- Separate applications since the mid-90s.
- Same training for the Indoc, then they go their separate ways..
- You never heard of something like this because no other airline does it. To give you an idea, a friend's probationary checkride was given to him by his classmate - who was hired as a manager. The manager needed to be extended twice because he couldn't get his 100 hour consolidation in time.
By the way, some were hired during our furlough!

Literally, people were turning in their badges while replacements were being shown around their new offices. On the same day and within feet of each other.
..and yet somehow those specific, furlough years nurps aren't on the master scab list? Sure, we weren't on strike, we were being furloughed.. Go figure..