Originally Posted by I like BIG Bus

So which is it, aircraft delivery delays, or is it something that has always been done. Misinformation is easy. You just have to put something out there, get someone to bite on it and then they'll tell two friends, and so on, and so on. We all know that this place is not being managed right now for longevity. So saying they can't staff properly is saying they are trying to staff properly. They are staffing for profit. To say they have always done it is also rediculous because it's been taken over by different people and they haven't done monthly voluntary furloughs until recently. Didn't happen last year, and didn't happen the year before. Stating that people are saying the sky is falling is really missing the point and a sad attempt at marginalizing an opinion. I have already stated I believe that indigo wants to make money, and grow. I'm not "whining" about upgrades. Again, attacking words meant to minimize and isolate my thoughts on the issues. My intent is to make sure people that are thinking about coming to Frontier aren't buying into the propeganda to justify coming here for below industry wages and compensation. You are NOT going to upgrade in 2 years and reserve is getting longer. You want that MCO domicile, you're gonna wait. That's one of the domiciles getting I think 6 FO voluntary furloughs for November. I'm here to contradict the destructive Rose colored glasses view, and give a dose of reality. You're obviously reading my past posts since I didn't bring up upgrades recently, make sure to read everything. I also am spring loaded to distrust anyone toting the company agenda. I am actively trying to leave, and believe me, I won't let the door hit me. I am also actively involved in trying to better our situation here. I feel for the people that got stuck on long reserves here, and waited 9 to 10 years for upgrade. That was a different company though and different times. Bringing that up just shows your bitterness and has no bearing on the current times. Yes people stagnate and guys at American waited 18 years for upgrade, still not an argument for this. The people you're talking about already work here, this isn't for them. It's on the FRONTIER HIRING thread. This is for people contemplating F9 as a job prospect. Southwest is going to hire 1000 pilots next year. Their FOs make more than our captains. Wouldn't you want to put more effort into going there presently, instead of here. I'm trying to help people to make an educated decision now, because interviewing, and starting over, and first year pay, and reserve, and commuting are hard things to deal with. It's not easy to jump from airline to airline and start over. You also might not get the opportunity to move on. Make sure you're making the right decision to come here. That is all.