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Awesome, thanks aero for helping me prove my point. 2020 or 2022, doesn't matter, this is all speculation of amount of growth and timelines. You guys don't even have the same information. Maybe you're right maybe you're not, again it doesn't matter. Even if we double in size, that doesn't matter either, if you get hired now you will not upgrade. And in two or maybe four years stagnation! But I will put the carrot of vague opportunity that we will be bought or merged by then. Which will be a painful and arduous journey in and of itself. Sounds like a great deal. Hurry up and sign on that $23,000 dollar line ladies and gents.
You are right that there are no guarantees. No where in life is there a true guarantee. I'm not here promising to predict pilot careers. I did however take the time to gather the best information available and I've posted it here. I got the real lease return numbers and the real scheduled delivery information. I'm not making stuff up, I'm trying to post the most accurate information possible. You are more than free to call it speculative or whatever, that's fine. I don't care what you think and feel. I engaged you on this forum because I thought your initial post about the 18, 1 month leaves of absence was unfair. You made it sound like the damn sky was falling, or that growth is not occurring here. Frontier is growing, and the sky is not falling. If you want to be upset about something, I think you should direct your attention to how the company is dealing with contrast negotiations.
I'm sorry if you came here believing you would upgrade in 2 years and the company would double in size instantly the day after you got on the seniority list. I'm really not sure what your thinking is, other than obviously being very pessimistic.
The fleet plan has gone virtually exactly as planned for the last 2 or 3 years. When the second order for 321s was placed, the fleet plan of 120 airplanes by 2022 was stated. We are on that track. I've taken the time to dig into it and I believe that's exactly the plan. Nothing happens quickly, so don't expect to rocket up the seniority list. We still have a lot of lease returns next year, growth isn't very quick in 2018. 2019 and 2020 are much bigger growth years.
I'm not here to tow the company line, I'm just trying to provide facts. I'm the only person on this forum that has posted specific numbers on the fleet plan. I've taken the time to verify it. I don't care what you think or feel. Delta has a job fair in Atlanta later this month, feel free the check it out