Originally Posted by Milksheikh

I don't see it this way. As of late, the AA w/o's are raking in pilots left and right. Just look at envoy's multiple recent newhire classes of 40+. Piedmont has arguably the best combo of money/flow to AA. Money is nice and to be rolled into payrates is even better. But the AA w/o's offer something endeavor can't. It looks like Delta wouldn't even entertain it based off what I saw on their recent negotiation: Guaranteed movement to mainline. Not some gimmicky ssp/etd/dgi where delta is forced to interview someone who otherwise wouldn't have gotten the call. This is the reason along with the bases offered why people are flocking to work at the AA w/o's. Even though the money is rolled into payrates, its still about even to what they can offer but the kicker is the lack of flow. Anyone who has multiple checkride busts, a dui, or someone too old to volunteer on their time off or people without a degree will be going to one of AA's regionals. Its a guaranteed way to move to mainline and a no brainer. If endeavor truly wants to be competitive, they will have to offer a flow of some sort.