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Old 10-02-2017 | 07:02 AM
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FTFF
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For you guys considering brown and an ANC commute thru SDF, pay close, close attention to Whale's post above, particularly paragraphs 3-5. For reference, P3 is a company must ride DH. P7 is line pilot personal JS booking. ANC SDF will have a lot of crews being positive spaced both ways for various reasons which reduced the total seats avail for commuters. The matrix refers to limits our contract has for how many seats of company business personnel ups can put on a particular flight. As Whale pointed out on the SDF ANC runs, we have problematic JS bidding software worsened by frequent must ride DH changes, limited available seats combined with a growing number of people doing it all leading to one giant cluster-F in the near future for ANC commuters. You need to consider this eventuality should you be offered a class.

I have a very high regard for whale and will say that if you want to know what the guys are like at UPS, Whale is a good representative. As such, I take any disagreement with him into deep consideration. While I agree the JS booking system, the P3 issue, and the YTF didn't they certify the 800's with all avail JS's are needed changes, even if we did get these enacted it still wouldn't change the fact that there are simply not enough seats for all the guys that are or will be commuting and that is the main problem. It is not UPS's responsibility to get any of us to/from domicile. The expectation for them, and any airline for that matter, is that we live where we are based but because we can get away with it we can choose not to live in domicile just as we can choose to accept employment with all of its terms and conditions. As a newhire I was ready to relocate (temporarily) to ANC or somewhere close if the commute proved too difficult. Just the reality of the situation not my lack of seniority forcing me into something. What should be looked into is whether or not ANC should be treated as a foreign domicile - private school $$, housing allowances, yearly family tix back home, etc., that would at least make it bearable to consider moving up there. But until UPS buys a few CRJs and runs dedicated shuttles for us to commute to ANC with, expect the commute to be a pain in the rear.

Last edited by FTFF; 10-02-2017 at 07:08 AM. Reason: Typos
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