Originally Posted by
FlyByCable
UPS management has all the say in any forthcoming deal. Since you are junior here, would you want those Atlas guys to come in ahead of you knowing that most of them want a job here anyway buyout or not, and are willing to come here at the bottom of the seniority list as a newhire?
If UPS Management has all the say in a proposed deal, how would anyone of us know how they would integrate them ?? Are there any high ranking management pilot amongst us that are in "the know" ???
Will the Challenge Air Cargo serve as the template ? It doesn't have to be.
Case in point, American Airlines gave the AirCal pilots date-of-hire during one merger and steamrolled Reno and TWA in others.
Is UPS in a phase of growth using the same type aircraft that Atlas currently operates. Could UPS use a NYC base, a Stanstead base, and military contracts ? Atlas has a 747 training facility in Miami. Why scuttle their employees that have thousands of hours in the 747-400 when we are just now getting on our feet with the program. One of the deficiencies right now is massive new hire hiring and limited training facilities. Just my humble opinion, but Atlas's assets and employees offer us more than just the assets.
I for one don't know how an Atlas pilot group would be integrated, but hopefuly it would be better than YOUR proposal of take the planes and scuttle the employees. In my opinion, purchasing their assets and possibly their delivery slots for the El Ocho does not HAVE to have a detrimental effect on our career progression. Nothing says their pilots have to be slotted ahead of anyone. However, one thing is for sure: The airplanes, the new crew bases and cargo contracts will come under our roof.
Part of the reason the industry is on the state it is based on management's ability to divide us and conquer. Going around snubbing other pilots groups "because we can" only serves to facillitate this management goal.
And no, this isn't my first airline or first merger.
FF