There were allot of good people that I believe were fantastic at bringing in IACP as well as helping to negotiate and implement our first two contacts. Rene Menjares, Bill Borelli, Pat Burke, and John Prater are people like anyone else. They all did good work in bringing in a union at CAL to fill the void and raise the bar for the CAL pilots. Those folks had their flaws, but, I think their hearts were in the right place.

On agenda issues, we didn't always agree, but that's why you vote and that's the process.

If IACP would have stayed on CAL property, I think it would have continued to evolve, mature, and yes improve.

It's just a chapter in the great big book of airlines of the past. It really doesn't matter in terms of where we are going. It may help describe how we got here, but it certainly doesn't pre-determine our destination as a pilot group.

is it helpful to discuss the past? Sure, from an educational stand point. But except for those reasons I just don't think it's very productive.

If you want to insult the former CAL pilots who participated in and who were members in good standing of the IACP, that's your right to do so Allen Alert. I am just glad we got a union on property and it helped represent and defend the CAL pilots when necessary. It was time and money well spent.