Joe, I made the point that we are several metrics short of a great career compared to the big 3 and that a CBA won't address all of our career short comings.

You agreed, but said that when our retirements start we will be able to compete.

I said thats not for 15 years, and asked how we will compete for the next 15 years?

You said the contract.

That's in a nutshell what I took from the last several posts between us.

That's where I disagree with you.

I HAVE to ask, what exactly is there to be positive about right NOW with JB?