no doubt ALPA has a lot of clout and has done a lot of good things in the industry. True it was our battle against management that led to the letdown at my last job, just wanted more (probibably too much) from ALPA. ASA has had long road to get this TA and as much as i'd like to see things improve here, getting that at the expense of a huge fight at ASA wouldn't make me proud. I see a lot of pro-ALPA posts (many at my expense) - where are you on the line? haven't talked to anyone in the last 3 months that had anything positive to say about ALPA! Still on the fence here but i'll admit a little gun shy because of the QOL i had to put up at the last place i worked (ComAir). The vote just started so there's a lot of time to get it in.