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Old 10-24-2017, 11:33 PM
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ATR72
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
They gave us industry standard pay outside of section 6. They may have done the same even if we voted no. Who knows?

But what is certain is we would be close to opening section 6 negotiations while the economy is still on the upswing.

Who knows what would have happened. We need to focus on C2020.

Edit: I meant to quote Name User not you.

We got the pay raise outside of section six that's correct. Make sure to place the credit where it's due- the no vacation float campaign. That eight percent came within weeks of that, which validates that the no vacation float was what triggered the raise, not parker being a nice or fair guy (we all know he isn't).

On the rest of it you're right. Mostly it's water under the bridge except when I see the same apathetic attitude on display- that's how we get crushed every time. 2020 is not that far away and we definitely do not have our act together. It sounds like it'll be a similar negotiating team dynamic as last time. The same one that failed at everything except the hourly pay rates.
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