Originally Posted by
Bluedriver
Growth has already been slowed here and is one CEO change from stopping all together.
All we KNOW is our pay is lowest of our peers by a lot. And no widebodies. And very few retirements. And growth can evaporate in a nanosecond.
Did I miss anything we know for sure?
A few additional points.
I wouldn't say growth has been slowed, I'd say it's been redistributed to an obtainable level. The airline can't accept more than one airframe per month. This has been publicly stated by Robin. The growth has been spread evenly instead of trying to take 25 airframes in the 4Q, which is impossible.
Pay isn't the lowest, unless you call Allegiant, Frontier and Spirit outside of the peer set. I understand that when you're talking about the "peer set" that the airilne looked at when averaging pay, they're not included, but they're Airbus operators. Look at the FO rates at Frontier, they max out at $100 an hour at year 12. A JetBlue FO will surpass this after 2 years and one day on property. If you think the airline is simply ignoring those airlines when making their arguments on pay rates, then I believe you are wrong.
Growth can go away, that's correct, but it hasn't. Retirements can be used to stop hiring. This happened at United recently, they parked the 747 fleet in and didn't hire for 9 months. Imagine being the bottom guy on that United list for 9 months, watching the airline shrink around you.
My point being there are no guarantees. You seem to believe there are guarantees, where I contend no such thing exists in this industry at any level.