The sad part is Frank if you talk to a negotiator they basically finally said fine let's go with the outline you negotiated directly with the pilot group and we'll revisit the issues such as a 16 day sch. etc, and we'll make the contract for two years just to stem the tide of people leaving. That's when they took that supposed offer off the table and said no we're not gonna do pay, per diem etc. So even we we agree to what they want they change the play book. I have no idea what game they are playing but I know I'm sick and tired of doing everyone's job for them and intend to play by the playbook we have and see how well things get done when me and others no longer do everyone one else's job. I hope you'll join us.