Originally Posted by
JonnyKnoxville
As an airline pilot flying in the U.S., I have skin in the game. We are all tied together whether you like it or not. Overtime you fight to for lower pay and work rules you are an advocate for lower pay and work rules across the industry.
We all know you and Dubious are dying to take any deal you can get, no matter how bad it is. If you are so bent out of shape about the direction your fellow pilots are taking in negotiations, I challenge you two to run for a leadership position within your union to change the direction you are headed in. With that said, I would bet that you two are the vocal minority that are simply outnumbered by those with higher standards, self-worth and common sense. However, I could be wrong. This is certainly a vote I would like to see.
Johnny,
In a word....
Bullshyt.
The hard core union guys always whip out their go to line, "if you don't like it, volunteer" the problem with that is, that ain't how it works.
We all pay dues, we physically pay each month for the right to tell our representative how we feel on an issue.
If we get a positive response, we continue to support them; if not we cast our vote for someone we believe will represent our individual wishes.
If you notice, Frank didn't give anyone lectures or even tell people how to vote.
If you're right that he and just "a few guys" share his belief, then there is no way a TA would pass, strengthening the hand of our negotiators.
If you're wrong and it passed, then clearly the will of the majority of the pilot group would be represented.
Your accusation that Frank is advocating for "lower standards in the industry" is outlandish.
If it is true that we are losing thousands of dollars ea month to fight for 16 days off when the avg Omni pilot works 12 or 13 days a month (on avg) then clearly, we are sacrificing for others not ourselves.
I'm sure you're warming up your keyboard to tell me how selfish that is.
Well, it's no more selfish then pilots from other carriers that expect us to fight for something that will help them (at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars) which will have minimal impact on us.
Finally, your assumption that Frank "probably" doesn't represent more than a couple of pilots is dead wrong.
I've talked to at least 20 guys and 100% of them agree that the gains obtained thus far (thanks NC, you efforts are applauded)
are good enough IF the language is solid.
I talked to one of the NC guys about a year ago and asked him what were the most pressing issues that the pilots wanted and 16 days wasn't even on the list!
That's not to say nobody wanted it, just that the survey didn't make it a priority.
If you think it's great to fight indefinitely (and you are a current Omni pilot) for what is in your opinion, "industry standard" then i say awesome! And, commend your fortitude.
If you're not, well......