I see it a different way. The negotiating committee was way out of touch with what we wanted. So until they start listening to us, and actually standing up to the company, it will be on here. It's simple, get this or don't bother putting out an LOA. They didn't listen to the pilot group for the loa they the away, and if that's was the best they could get, well then they need all the help they can get.

Yes the company looks on here, good, now they see we want actual changes and not **** with the typical "if we can" language.

I was talking to the ord CA rep a few months ago, and asked him why they don't stand up to the company, his response "I want to keep my job". That's what we have fighting for us.