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Old 11-14-2017 | 06:10 AM
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griff312
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Originally Posted by Smutter
I see it a different way. The negotiating committee was way out of touch with what we wanted. So until they start listening to us, and actually standing up to the company, it will be on here. It's simple, get this or don't bother putting out an LOA. They didn't listen to the pilot group for the loa they the away, and if that's was the best they could get, well then they need all the help they can get.

Yes the company looks on here, good, now they see we want actual changes and not **** with the typical "if we can" language.

I was talking to the ord CA rep a few months ago, and asked him why they don't stand up to the company, his response "I want to keep my job". That's what we have fighting for us.
I agree to an extent. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the LOA came from the company after years of union proding them for some kind of reserve relief. Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe the union DID listen to the pilots when they realized that the loa was not the depth that we wanted. If we direct our officers toward what we want, and they take it to the company, then great. That's the way it's supposed to work. If they don't, then take it to the public pilot group streets, and via for a position on the negotiating committee. This thread produced some great ideas, and took a good reading of what we all want. But for now, from the company's eyes, it's just ramblings. They will do nothing with this. The company will not negotiate with us directly. Rather you have high faith, or none at all in the union, they are the only ones that can intercede on our behalf. Unfortunately it seems that negotiations on reserve have halted. For now at least. I hope you're right, in that the company would see this and be moved to initiate positive change in our direction. But I just don't see that happenening.
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