Old 11-25-2017 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
I am debating whether to go to envoy or endeavor. I live in DFW. I've read that the schedules at Envoy are brutal and the pay is sub par, even with the bonus. How are the commutes out of DFW for Endeavor bases? Are there commutable lines I could hold as a junior FO?
As others have said, the new positive space second attempt commuting benefit makes Endeavor a more viable option than it was previously. I flew with a captain the other day who commutes from DFW to LGA and he said it's a decent commute. Lots of options but lots of competition (and forget ATL, since delta used to have a hub in DFW). With the second attempt positive space, key to a good qol commuting to endeavor would be ability to hold commutable lines (endeavor has 25 hour 5 day commutable trips...start late end early). Easy to hold these after 9 months on the fo seniority list while also getting 16-20 days off, but it might take 7-10 years to get to an equivalent seniority level on the captain list (though anything could happen in 2 years when it's time to upgrade).

One thing to consider about Envoy is where you'll be based coming out of training. I have heard that they have a long new hire seat lock and if you get the 700, you're stuck commuting to ORD for a long time, and that's probably an awful commute being hub to hub. I wouldn't pass up envoy if they the chance of getting a DFW base was strong...I'm just not sure how bad their schedules are. If you're going to only have 11-12 days off a month and only credit 75 hours, commuting to endeavor for 16-20 days off (as an FO) might be better than being based in Dallas.
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