Originally Posted by
baseball
I seem to layover at the same hotels in south America as 787 crews do.
Point is : what does the 787 carry passenger wise? What does the 767-300 carry? pretty friggin similar.
767-300 pilots are getting screwed big time!! Pay for those pilots should be what a 767-400 is paying.
ATC seems to call that aircraft "heavy" in their clearances.
an all night, 11 hour global flight over the mountains and the amazon and through all that crappy weather shouldn't be paying crappy 737 pay! PERIOD DOT End of story. If the NC doesn't get it, fire them! I am sick and tired of this insanity.
It really is a wide body aircraft, doing a wide body mission.
I don't disagree that the 767-300 crews deserve a higher rate. I joined this debate because some suggested that the 767-400 should be unbanded from the widebody rate which I felt was absurd based on the airplanes capacity, stage length and the historical precedent of WB pay at Continental.
The capacity for the widebodies are as follows (not including cattle car configurations):
767-300 - 183 Pax
787-8 - 219 Pax
767-400 - 242 Pax
787-9 - 252 Pax
777-200 - 267 Pax
Delta does separate their 767-400 and 787 into a slightly different payrate which is about $20 lower than for the others. I think United pilots have done well having more planes included at the higher rate. We have a separate rate for the A380 if it ever shows up (Unlikely in my view).
Again, the 767-300 does deserve a higher rate.
And, interestingly, the Continental NC attempted to have the 757-300 included as a widebody when we first received them just based on their passenger capacity (213 Pax - more than the 767-300)