Originally Posted by
baseball
You can PM me and I will tell you who it was.
On another note...wondering if it is SOP for our LCA's to come out on the line and tell us all about "Kirby this - and Kirby that?" I don't care for our LCA's telling us that Kirby wants and needs scope relief. I feel that is management using (or misusing) their connection with the LCA's via their fleet update meetings and having some sort of unofficial expectation that they go out and spread the company word to create buy-in on the line.
That is management directly negotiating with the pilots in my opinion. It almost feels like some form of "indoctrination." Reminds me of flying with Abbot's minions in the legacy CAL training department and how they sold POS 02. Remember PJ in IAH. What a DB. They used the LCA's and Instructors to brainwash everyone that the sky was falling and negotiated directly to the pilots and sort of abrogated and bypassed the negotiating process. Of course, it didn't hurt that CAL also brain-washed our scab laden NC and the weak-links on the MEC.....But, that's another story.
Me thinks Kirby will continue to use the standards and LCA meetings for the purpose of spreading his "gospel."
We've had different experiences, then. I've never had a LCA sell me the company line (or maybe I wasn't paying attention). OTOH, ALPA-N representatives most definitely led the charge for C-02 and we unfortunately voted for it. The facts and opinions (every previous IACP president and MEC chair was against it) were all there in the open. Ultimately, the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of the pilots, including myself. I don't think we were lied to, just the industry turned around faster than expected. OTOH, the no snap back clause I knowingly voted for is my biggest regret. All water under the bridge at this point.