I’m happy at Envoy so don’t get me wrong in this post, but thinking from a new hires perspective...

...especially as a commuter.
Why would you come here?

Endeavor is basically offering first year engineering pay. All pay rates (FO and CA) are on “mainline levels.” For the first time in history captains at Endeavor will actually be taking a pay cut to go to mainline.

So why come to Envoy or go anywhere else for that matter? Unless you live in a Envoy, PSA, Peidmont, Skywest etc. base, why would anyone go to any of those places? 60+ % of us commute? 5 year flow has come and gone... a pilot hired today at any AAG whollyown will flow in 8+ years because they are growing all of them and the way the (flow) contracts are written currently today for a new hire coming in, it allows AAG whollyowneds to withhold more pilots at the regional level. It’s a scam. Delta American united jet blue southwest etc are hiring like crazy and it’s only going to be ramped up more. If your a good egg, you will be hired at one of them.

Again I don’t hate my job and life at Envoy, we do have perks. But pay is not one of them...

People will realize this and our class numbers will go down come February/March. Mark my words.

The company saying “well you have flow” is not and will not be good enough. Time for a raise. They are profiting more now thAn they ever have in history, time to reward the people doing the work. Especially the captains, who have been getting pathetic excuses for raises forever.