Cliff..when I went thru UPT...1985..... there was NO fly you and fly you and fly you.... 2 busted rides got you an 88 eval ride... bust that you went to an 89 elimination ride.... bust that you were GONE. There was no coddeling... no fly until he gets it.. you got it on THEIR schedule or you were out...finished ...end of story. In those days wash out rates averaged 50% in flight school and in some classes even exceeded that.... my class started 66....graduated 27.

T-37 solo was a pretty big deal...but there was only a three ride block to acomplish it.... rides 8, 9 or 10 in the jet. if by 10 you were not ready you were going to an eval ride.....end of story.

Now... i admit... UPT isnt what it was from that respect. I have a friend who is a retired LTCOL who is a sim instructor at a UPT base and he recently told me that it sickened him with how much extra time he was obligated to give to a student to get them thru... so yes... it has changed.... but not for the good in my opinion.


this coddeling of UPT students is a rather new thing just in the past few years .... they would be better served washing out the weak ones in my opinion.