Originally Posted by
cal73
Vacancy Bid Jr Captain as per the published Jr man table
16-06v 9523
16-10v 9658 June 2016 peak
16-11v 9651
17-01v 9606
17-04v 9513
17-07v 9458
17-10v 9432
18-03v 9252
18-04v 9189 December 2017...
1.5 years for the junior captain to go 469 numbers more senior.
I'm not saying the sky is falling but we aren't growing.
Originally Posted by
davessn763
Not brain surgery, Hah! Tell that to the MBA’s that just closed and opened a base in in Houston or added 75 more 756 pilots without buying more planes.
How many pilots were there on the ISL? 12487 How many are there now? 12511 What’s the growth rate since the ISL? 6 pilots per year for the past 4 years or .04%. annual growth rate over the last 4 years. How do you call that growth? That my friend is as stagnant as stagnant can be.
The junior captain at the company on 1 January 2018 is the same pilot who was the junior captain 1 January 2017.
We’ve grown our mainline fleet by 24 aircraft since 2011. 4 aircraft per year, we should have grown about 300 pilots with that kind of fleet growth, but we haven’t.
Which CPO pep rally are they handing out this “we are growing” flavored kool aid? I need something to cut my pessimistic statistics with to take the edge off.
You are both ignoring relevant facts.
1) The ISL included almost 1000 pilots that were still voluntarily on leave. The majority of those pilots have since returned to the line. I had this same disagreement a month ago with another poster. He too insisted on ignoring the list of "active pilots". Personally I find that list to be a much better indication of pilot labor force growth.
2) The junior man list over an 18 month period is not a valid look because you are forgetting the numbers shown are not "hire date". Personally in that same 18 month period I have gone from 55% on the A320 captain list to now 36% on the A320 captain list. That is HUGE movement in 18 months.
3) Finally and most importantly and has been said over and over by several posters like MoP and others, 2017 was all about correcting past inefficiencies. I suggest, you wait until the end of 2018 before you start declaring stagnation rules the day.