Originally Posted by
svergin
You just proved my point. 2288 pilots hired post-merger. Meaning post-merger. PLUS all the U-hires AND the returning furloughees.
I get your point. You are saying that we had 12,500 or whatever pilots on the SLI list, but that included HUNDREDS of pilots on COLAs and furloughed from both legacies. It also included pilots who HAD ALREADY RETIRED. So, in effect, we really only had about 11,000 ACTIVE pilots when the merger happened in 2010. So “POST MERGER” we have grown EASILY by 1,500 pilots net plus we’ve replaced all the retirees.
I think its funny that we made a point during our SLI to say those pilots weren’t active, and that should drive their placement, now we reference their placement on the list (as inactive pilots) somehow providing we haven’t grown.
End of the day, our Seniority List is only up by less than 400 pilots after 5+ years.
We can all throw as many numbers out there that we want, but 12155 at SLI and 12511(ish) today don't lie.
Yes, there were 1400+ UAL pilots out on Furlough (vol and Invol).. but some of those had actually been (re)hired at CAL. Then there were a couple of hundred pilots out on LTD and Mil Leaves.
BUT.. again, at the end of the day we have not grown this pilot group significantly since the merger.
I hope we hire more than we retire/lose next year. With those extra aircraft that are scheduled to come online in the Spring/Summer timeframe, we should. But we will know more in 12 months!
Motch
PS) Since you mentioned I proved your point about the 2288 post merger newhires..
Maybe we should find out exactly how many pilots retired in the same time.. to include deaths, firing and resigns.
I'll (again) bet-
About 2000ish, give or take a hundred.