Originally Posted by
HighFlight
9E is putting people with 1000 121 hours into the left seat as soon as they are out of training. That means new hire-to-CA is taking about 4-5 months. So BeatNavy is correct in his calculations. Let’s do a 5-year comparison with “now” rates:
So a new hire at JB right now can expect to make CA in 5 years (maybe more?). 9E will be a CA in 4 months ~ 2 years, depending on hours.
Year 1 JB - $54 X 75 X 12 = $48,600
Year 2 JB - $85 X 70 X 12 = $71,400
Year 3 JB - $100 X 70 X 12 = $84,000
Year 4 JB - $109 X 70 X 12 = $91,560
Year 5 JB - $114 X 70 X 12 = $95,760 ($391,320 total)
Year 1 9E - $50 X 75 X 12 = $45,000
Year 2 9E - $86 X 75 X 12 = $77,400 (CA)
Year 3 9E - $88 X 75 X 12 = $79,200
Year 4 9E - $90 X 75 X 12 = $81,000
Year 5 9E - $92 X 75 X 12 = $82,800 ($365,400 total)
9E guy with 2 years &enough hours to move to JB, and is on the fence about it:
Year 3 CA - $88 X 75 X 12 = $79,200
Year 4 CA - $90 X 75 X 12 = $81,000
Year 5 CA - $92 X 75 X 12 = $82,800
Year 6 CA - $94 X 75 X 12 = $84,600
Year 7 CA - $96 X 75 X 12 = $86,400 ($414,000 total)
Two different scenarios, comparing straight-up new hires at each, and one showing a person moving from 9E to B6. As you can see, there is not a whole lot of financial reason to leave 9E, especially considering all the talk on this forum about how miserable life is at JB. Not the case at 9E; management has treated us well.
Now obviously, after one makes CA at JB, it then blows 9E CA pay out of the skies.
9E - $96 X 75 X 12 = $86,400 vs.
B6 - $185 X 70 X 12 = $155,400
And you’re right, eventually the CA quick upgrade thing will slow down, but I don’t see it doing so in the next year or more. In fact, it has only gotten faster in the past 24 months. And with a fair amount of attrition off the top, that movement will continue.
Bear in mind my analysis is simply trying to point out that the differences between JB and the top-paying regional is not all that far of a gap to bridge. It SHOULD be, since your company is a major airline, and I HOPE that gets larger, very soon, for the sake of every pilot on property. But right now, JB is enjoying some pretty large profits which are as large as they are partly because the pilot group makes minimally more than a regional group in the first 5 years.
7% more income at JB in 5 years, if considering straight new hires at each place.
$49,000 less pay at JB than 9E for a person looking to move up.