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I concur. Kind of a cryptic post, but I definitely agree.

However, I was just bringing up the disparity of the description of the pay, QOL, etc. by the former employees versus what is listed on the Orange job site. 8/6 schedule, ASAP Program, 21 gateways, and $92,000 starting PIC equals or exceeds Wheels Up, Flexjet, TMC Jets, and many other 91K and 135 operators. Somebody is telling the facts and and someone is telling alternative facts, or old facts. I know from former Part 135 experience that getting an ASAP program is no easy task and no true scumbag 135 operator is going to get approved for one, much less even want one. That is why so few Part 135 operators ever get approved for one.

Again, 8/6 schedule, high 5 figure starting Captain pay, FAA ASAP Program, basically home, or at least 21 gateway basing, etc. do not a "bush league" company make. This is a quote from a former employee from just one month ago: "Please listen to Skipper13. He knows what he is talking about. The absolute worse when it comes to pay, QOL, schedule, training contract, etc. Owner hates pilots! Believe me when I say that..." From what I see from the Orange site, the above post is no longer true.

Again, no dog in this fight for me but I don't see how they can possibly say that this is the worst. If you have ever been to YIP or South FL, you know that this is not true and that there are A LOT WORSE places to work then a company with the schedule, pay, etc. described above.

No offense to the former employees.. I was just wondering where all the hate came from, and I do understand being a dissatisfied former employee. But I also know that companies that I moved on from got better after I left. Companies change; Wheels Up/Gama did, Executive Air Shares did, most or all the Regionals did, and it looks like Red Wing might have changed for the better as well.